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The Jimmy Dore Show jan 18, 2013

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Holy crap Jimmy, I always love the Obama segments on your shows but this episodes Obama had me in stitches. I want to play it for all of my gun-nut family members and friends. Great work as always, my donation is always properly spent when it comes to the Jimmy Dore show :)

I haven’t had a chance to listen to this episode yet but in case you haven’t seen this Jimmy I think you should check out this argument (made by Thom Hartmann) that the second amendment was included in the constitution to appease and reassure the south that they would have the weapons to subdue slave populations among them and stop the slaves from any chances of violent revolt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVJMtCAX5fs

In your last show you mentioned understanding people that want to have guns to protect themselves and I’ve always felt the same and had mixed feelings on the debate over completely banning guns (like in UK). However if what Hartmann says is true then while I still have mixed feelings on a ban, the particular argument of citing the 2nd amendment holds less weight in my opinion.

Hey, Jimmy et al:

JF beat me to it! Here is a link to Thom Hartmann’s excellent and extensively documented article “The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery” posted on Truthout.org last week.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/13890-the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-preserve-slavery

I also immediately thought of Thom’s article when you played at 41:16 (01/18/2013) the clip of that stunningly ignorant propagandist arguing “I think Martin Luther King would agree with me if he were alive today [no mention or even awareness of MLK's assassination by high-powered sniper rifle, of course] that if African Americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country’s founding perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history.”

Wow (OMG). As Noam Chomsky and others have already observed and documented over and over again, US citizens are the most highly propagandized population on the face of the earth and in recorded human history.

Here are just the thesis and first few sentences of Thom Hartmann’s correct recounting of the actual history surrounding the Second Amendment:

“The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says ‘State’ instead of ‘Country’ (the Framers knew the difference – see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia’s vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too.”

“In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the ‘slave patrols,’ and they were regulated by the states.

“In Georgia, for example, a generation before the American Revolution, laws were passed in 1755 and 1757 that required all plantation owners or their male white employees to be members of the Georgia Militia, and for those armed militia members to make monthly inspections of the quarters of all slaves in the state. The law defined which counties had which armed [white male] militias and even required armed [white male] militia members to keep a keen eye out for slaves who may be planning uprisings.”

…and THAT is the origin of the deeply racist roots feeding the NRA and the current US debate about predominantly white male “tea partiers” needing their guns. Yet I rarely if ever hear anyone in the media and certainly not Barack Obama remind us of the real history involved in this issue.

I don’t know you make this funny– I leave that to you pros. But I hope you all find Thom’s info useful.

Hey Jimmy I want to thank you for what you said on TYT on the clip ‘do dems or repubs buy into conspiracy theories more often’.

People who have barely even heard of building 7 often mock conspiracy theorists for not having a clue.

While there’s many experts that challenge the official story from a scientific angle you still put it perfectly with “do you trust the government that lied to go to war or do you trust your lying eyes” when you see how that building came down.

Sean is so right.

I’ve seen that same conversation a thousand times.
Host: “You’re a conspiracy nut.”
Guest:”Well, what do you think about how Building 7 fell?”
Host: “Building what now?”

I’m starting to think there is only two types of people; conspiracy theorist, and uninformed pundits. Talking about going to bed mad, that TYT show did it for me. Its crazy that the poll considered Bush having prior knowledge as a conspiracy theory. It was the title of a security briefing. And Cara Santa Maria just fell down on the job. As a representative of science, shouldn’t she point out the difference between critical thinking and a nut bar? She should of described what a null hypothesis was, and what evidence would make her re-consider her poison, whatever it is. But it takes courage to talk about 911. A lot of people don’t look into it so they don’t have to feign ignorance. Not my buddy Jimmy! My buddy Jimmy gives a shit! Jimmy looks into it and says what he sees. Good job!

Too bad you are not articulating the guns for “defense against the government” argument very well. I liked your medical marijuana example. I think the point was, its not the actual use of guns as a defense that is the deterrent. Its the idea in some cop’s mind that the facility owner may be defending his shop. At that point, if he’s going on raids, the cop has been through so much brainwashing he just thinks its another reason to kill somebody.

I still like Dr. Paul Craig Robert’s: “You can’t have a police state with an armed population.” I don’t even know if that’s true but I think it would slow the process down. I wonder if your guests think the US, (and/or the rest of the world) is heading towards a police state. Maybe they think that sort of talk is just hyperbole? If so, what does a police state look like to them? Is it two tier justice, detainment, torture, and killing without trial, or what?

Thanks for the shows Jimmy.

wcdf.

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